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in movie theaters nationwide. it's called "the christmas sweater." go to glennbeck.com for details. for you. hannity's got sparpe -- sarah palin coming up. [captioning made possible by fox news] sean: tonight a special edition of hannity. her brand-new book has rocketed to the top of the charts. >> they knew what they were getting when they chose me. sean: sarah palin is here with the story behind her early years, to the campaign that made her a household name and the bright political future that makes liberals nervous. a special hour with sarah palin starts right now. and thanks for joining me for this special edition of "hannity" tonight. joining me now for her very
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first cable interview since the release of her brand-new book, "going rogue," the former governor of alaska, sarmente >> thank you so much for allowing me to be here. sean: we appreciate it. i'm going to start with the book. it's a biography of your life up to now. >> a compilation of journals from when i was a little girl to where i am today. sean: some of this kind of shocked me. maybe it describes why some people have negative feelings toward governor palin. you write you went hunting with your father before school one day. >> many days. sean: i looked to -- down to see the moose's eyeballs lying in his palm. when he saw the wrinkle in my nose he set them aside and realized that even though he had raised me to be a hunting
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buddy i had limits. >> things like that have been a part of my upbringing. that is alaska. things like that aren't uncommon and my dad is a science teacher. with his elementary students he wanted to be able to kill two birds with one stone, fill the family freesers and bring in specimens so his students could see what a moose is made of. events like that or an activity like that really helped shape me, being out there hunting, businessweek -- being out there very active, very much a lover of our outtoors and our clean environment up there and respecting the wildlife up there helped shape a lot of my political positions. sean: you talk a lot about your personal life too. you guys were dating at a pretty young age and you tell the story in the book that you
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weren't allowed to use the phone so you would communicate on radios? >> on v.h.f., yeah. on our back porches. he took his radios off his commercial fishing vessel and that's how we communicated back in the day. sean: then you discovered that truckers were listening in in? yeah, we did. they'd be barreling through town and that put a stop to our midnight chats it chip: -- sean: a lot of people don't know you eloped. how old were you? >> 23. we were broke. didn't want to spend any money that we didn't have. always quite frugal. surprised our friends and family and had a big reception afterwards. sean: big reception alt wendy's in >> well, that was the first reception i guess. but our parents threw us a big reception the sean: for the witnesses you
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went to an old folks home and got two people and walked them across the street? >> yeah, we did, we went to the pioneer home and looked for two people to see us into this life of matrimony. sean: and the $30 ring? >> $35. sean: sorry, i miss reade it. >> yeah. sean: and your mother broke down cry something? as i would, too. i tell my kids heaven forbid you did what i did. i want to have a tradition ool wedding for them, and all those things that todd and i didn't have a chance to. we were tired of being apart. we decide no more months and months apart, we're going to get married and forge this life as one and you know, it's been
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an absolute awesome ride of since the sean: how did your husband describe to the part of the book that described when he first tried to kiss you. you ran away and he told all his friends about it. >> yeah. as i say in the book too, it's a lesson that even the good guys can sometimes act like jerks which i thought he did because he told our friends about it. sean: how did he react to that being in the book? >> he said i could have written a lot worns things than that. sean: ok. walk through the very difficult story about your youngest son trig and when you discovered he would be a special needs chilet. d child. it's pretty heart-wrenching what you describe there. >> i think there are so many parents in america that face what i faced and todd faced, and that was some surprising news that not everything was going to be quote unquote
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normal or perfect with the pregnancy. what i describe in the sbook the process i went through through a lot of prayer that was finally accepting that trig was going to be a gift from god and my prayer was certainly answered the moment he was born when i realized oh, my gosh, god knew what he was doing and trig would be a perfect fit in our family. sean: but there was a period of time you -- before you could tell wrur husband about this. tell us how you describe it in the books. >> right. that was a rough couple weeks, three weeks when todd and i were physically apart and i didn't want to tell him over the phone that our child would have down syndrome. i wanted to be able to sit down and look him in the eyes. when i was finally able to tell him todd had such great perspective and reaction to it and probably a better reaction than i did at first when he was quite accepting and reassuring me that everything was going to
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be ok and truly that is certainly what has happened. everything has been ok. sean: i guess the question came up, why us and his answer back to you was why not us? >> exactly the sean: that's a pretty interesting response to me. >> todd has that perspective and i learned from him, it's so helpful and healthful, that perspective in this arena of politics which can get quite ugly and brutal. yet todd and my kids remind me so often of what really matters and keeping me ground and focused on what really matters in our country, it makes things a bit easier to get through. sean: one last family issue, then i want to get into substantive issues of what you think about the president and the campaign. when it came out, for example, you write about the vetting process and they knew when they were vetting you that your daughter was pregnant. >> right do you wonder how they found out about that?
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and how did you react when you found out your young daughter was pregnant? >> well, we found out about bristol, she was 17 and the mccain operatives knew all about it. they knew what they were getting the sean: did that make you uncomfortable? >> well, it was but it was reassuring because they knew what they were getting. a very encloseful, fool if family. i was very surprised then that the campaign wasnd -- wasn't ready to react to that circumstance. a teen who is pregnant, that's a challenge. it's not something to glamourize and something to emulate by other girls. i didn't want to send the message that it's something we were giddy happy about. bristol was embarrassed. she was quite concerned about the challenges they had and the
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campaign reacted in a way that i thought this isn't the message we want to send initially so we had right off the bat some discussion on what i would be able to say. sean: and you had a statement but you found out on the news that it was already released? >> right sean: that disappointed you? >> it did. because it was a very personal issue. but we had the opportunity there to send the mental, the right message out of the chute about teen pregnancy -- sean: it surprised me, because you said you realized the thought processes of somebody who would consider abortion. >> i did. for that fleeting moment. one, when i found out i was pregnant i was 43 years old, no spring chicken. sean: still younger than me, governor! >> and for that moment, i thought, nobody knew about it. i knew the critics were going
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to come out and have a heyday with this, and they would use i feared my pregnancy as an excuse to distract and thought for a moment, ok, these are less than ideal circumstances and this perhaps is why a woman would feel that it's an easy thing to just do away with the problem. but holding on to that seed of faith at that time knowing that, no, i know, i have to remember that there is purpose in every innocent life, in every baby's life. then having to hold onto that seed of faith again when i found out some weeks later that trig would have down syndrome, realizing again, my first thought was these are less than ideal circumstances, how should i react to that and understanding for a moment too why a woman would believe that perhaps it's easier to do away with a perceived problem and pretend it never happened. very, very thankful of course
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that i made the decision to give birth to trig the sean: i'm never going hunting with your father. more with sarah palin after the break. coming up, find out what sarah palin says was the worst
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sean: we continue now with governor sarah palin. you tell the story in the book about how you were selected. you were at the state fair. you got the phone call. >> yes. sean: and john mccain asking you to be his running mate. >> he asked if i would come to arizona and have a discussion with him about the possibility. couldn't wait to get on an airplane to go meet with him yen -- again. i had met him months prior and was very excited about it. had a great conversation with him. absolutely mondayed -- honored to have been asked to do the job with him. sean: prior to that, did you know you were being vetted?
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>> you know what? i had gone through a lot of national interviews that summer regarding energy issues in alaska and energy independence and things we were working on to ramp up domestic supplies and doing op eds for national publications. a lot of national reporters had gone up there and they would drop these kind of off the record comments about hey, i hear your name is being discussed but i didn't put a lot of stock in what they were saying it did you imagine in this whole process that on the one hand you would be so loved and on the other you would have so many people attacking you? >>. i was quite naive in terms of the anticipation. i think my family was also caught off guard. those who know me were quite taken aback. sean: what was the hardest part shall the worst attack for you?
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what was the worst moment for you when this process was unfolding, all the investigators racing up to wasilla to find out who you were? >> it was absolutely bizarre. they were bringing loads of researchers up there. some in obama's camp, some the media to find what they could find, any kind of dirt. thy -- thought they were find out i had a d in a macro economics course 20 years ago in college. that's how naive i was in terms of anticipating that was going to be the big skeleton in the closet president sean: what was the worst? was it letterman? >> two, one in the campaign, my personal emails being hacked and broadcast around the world. that was devastating because i knew some of the personal conversations i had and i
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didn't know what was going to be out there. the hacker admitted he was looking for something to re -- derail or destroy the mccain campaign. that caused a lot of disruption and distrust within the campaign that was unfortunate. but the most devastating thing to me was the things that would affect the kids. the attacks on trig, which blows me away that anybody could be that cruel that he shouldn't have been aroud to -- allowed to be born. sean: or that he wasn't your child, he was really bristol's child. >> yeah. sean: i was in the store this week and saw the tabloid about your impending divorce. >> oh, yeah. sean: and how about the letterman joke? >> that was another odd
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episode. i was asked to respond to his remarks about my 14-year-old daughter being knocked up by alex rodriguez. i hadn't heard the joke. i said that sounds tasteless and not funny. and then there were follow-up questions and they said how do you feel about that kind of humor and i said it's sexist and exploits a child -- sean: would you want to have anything to do with him? would you forgive him? because you're a christian. >> well, certainly. and vengeance, it isn't mine. but i don't want to boost his ratings so i have no desire to. sean: what about the cover of "newsweek." you did a photo and story for runner's world and they used this picture. that just happened this week
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the >> that was another so unnecessary thing, to take a shot from a health and fitness profile from many months ago and put that on the cover of "newsweek" magazine. just another little shot. but in the grand scheme of things, of course, things like that really don't amount to a hill of beans when there are many things that are going wrong, something's going right but something's going wrong in our country that people want to hear about and talk about. i think people are tiring of the tabloidization of some people, like me, and they want to get to the issues. sean: when we come back, governor palin talks about her relationship behind the scenes with senator john mccain. and she shares her thoughts one
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sean: we continue now with former governor sarah palin. all right, going rogue -- the title comes from even your entire life, when you were with city council, when you were mayor and governor, you took on the establishment. but i was with you in tampa when you mentioned oh, by the way, these clothes are from a con signment shop. you were there when karl rove talked about pulling out of michigan and you said i don't want to pull out of michigan. that was viewed as going rogue the >> evidencely -- evidently there was a conflict and unforgiveness by some campaign operatives when i wa -- would speak off the cuff and answer a question from the heart, like go, i don't want to have to leave michigan, let's give it the old college try and gets
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votes there. so i guess there was that accusation that the v.p. side of the ticket was going rogue. and conveniently it fits and it's a great book title and descriptive of much of my life. sean: i read the book cover to cover, didn't miss a word and i thought with all the conflicts you describe with the campaign, quote, headquarters, as you described it, why did not -- did you not reach out to senator mccain at some point and say this isn't working well with me with the staff? or did you? >> there was a description of the conflict in the campaign because so many people have asked me about it and said why did the mccain-palin message not resonate with the public because the yisheds we were talking about and -- issues we were talking about and believing in were the right issues to be discussed and the planks we were standing on were the right message to build
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america. so i wrote there -- about that, the conflicts and the way a machine works in a campaign. 95% though of the campaign was absolutely amazing, awesome, invigorating, energizing. the people we met all along the trail were absolutely inspiring and unfortunately, you know, not enough pages available in a book to get to describe all of that. but about the 5% of the conflict, it's in the book. sean: and you have a good relationship with senator mccain now? >> very good relationship. ne -- yes. sean: barack obama is president, now in his 11th month. what do you think overall of him? i think you gavey rating of four out of 10 in an interview. what do you think of him tho? as a person and as a president? >> as a person, very charismatic, articulate, very, very talented as a politician and he's been gifted in this
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arena and i would like those gifts to be put to better use, to make solid, sound decisions for our country to put us back on the right track because i think the decisions he is making when it comes to our economy are not the right decisions for america. they will not shore up the economy. we are getting further and further away from free enterprise principles that certainly have built up our country and assisted the small businesses that are the backbone of our economy. we're getting further and further away from that with the government expansion we see. i'd like to see him put all those god-given talents he is so full of to better serve america the sean: let me just appoint you president right now, what would you be doing differently than the stimulus, the omnibus, the health care -- you mean something different than throwing the federal government, digging us further and further into debt and making us more beholden to
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foreign countries? start cutting the -- helping the job creators so our small businesses can reinvest and grow and prosper. there are so many things that are common sense principles that ronald reagan applied to get us out of the recession in the early 1980's. i'd like to see us revisit that. sean: i follow this president every day. i think he's a socialist. do you they he is? >> i think he is certainly taking more and more power away from the individual and small businesses and he's empowering government and that's a dangerous path for our country to be on. sean: he's taken over banks, financial institutions, they're dictating pay -- >> auto industry. sean: and now health care. isn't that by definition socialism? >> energy i think will be next.
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that's why americans have got to pay attention, to have their voices heard and remind the federal government that our expectation is that the government will work for us, we will not work for them. all we're asking is that government be put back on our side. sean: you took a lot of head -- heat for talking about the president's radical associations but you would have liked to go further? >> oh, yeah.
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>> so i can avoid catching or spreading the flu this year, it's smart to get a flu shot, wash your hands, cover your cough. but is that enough? after all, you really do want the other 4.5 billion people on the planet to keep their distance. that's why i carry this guy. [engine starts] beautiful day isn't it. [running engine] one quick tug and the sidewalk's all mine. [running engine] works great on elevators, too. [running engine] [engine revs]
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[running engine] sean: and we continue now with sarah palin and of course her new book is out. one of the issues i focused in on in the campaign as a commentator, i'm on the air four hours a day, was the president's radical associations. i could not understand why the campaign did not focus on bill ayers and father pfleger and jeremiah wright. you took a lot of heat for saying "paling around with terrorists." you wanted to talk about jeremiah wright, you write in the book and you were told not to. >> i'm still perplexed as to why we weren't fair to the electorate and discuss those associations and the past voting record and the experiences one of the candidates had in his career. i would remind people that it wasn't negative campaigning or
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off base to call someone out on their voting record the what you did was try to do the job that a campaign should have done. we really missed the boat on that. sean: it surprised me because he said it's only a guy in the neighborhood. a guy you have given spichese with, started your political career in his home, sat on boards can -- -- >> and what was would, it was even more recent that ayers had said they didn't do enough harm to our country. for that not to have been condemned by broke was a shame. sean: why not bring up reverend wright? g-d america? america's chickens have come home to roost? he sat there in that church for 20 years. it still amazes me that was not a bigger issue in the campaign. >> should have been a bigger issue because it was indicative of some of the quote unquote
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tolerance of a candidate in terms of hearing a message and being fed things that are not good for our country. sean: is the president more radical than he let on? do you think the president is radical? >> i will not hesitate to say that his associates have been extremely radical and we see that in some of the appointments he has made. again, it is unfair to the electorate for a campaign to hesitate on calling someone out on what their record really represents. sean: i agree with that. and i think you describe yourself in the book as more conservative than republican. you go into this. you say reagan motivated you to get into politics. i consider myself say reagan conservative. a lot of people think i'm a republican. i'm not. you can register in new york as a conservative. are you more of a conservative or a republican? >> you know, it doesn't surprise me that you are not a registered republican.
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so many good people i know are not registered in a party machine. todd isn't a registered republican and people say wow, i must be pretty weak if i can't even convince my own husband. is you -- but up in alaska the majority, 70% of alaskaans have that independent, pioneering spirit that says i'm not going to be so excessively partisan that i let politics get in the way of fighting for the right things. i am a registered republican because i truly believe the planks in that platform are the best to build my party and country. sean: you supported doug hoffman in new york 23. according to the latest nucks he has a chance to win this. >> that's exciting. sean: you went against the establishment republican, a
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liberal republican. i didn't agree with her on a single issue. i was with you on supporting the conservative candidate. will that be your future? >> in that race the registered republican was more liberal than the democrat. that confused a lot of people. i had an opportunity to speak out for a common sense conservative who was quite independent of the party machinery. heck yeah, i would do it again in a heartbeat. sean: what do you think the biggest challenge is we face today? >> fighting the war on terror still. i'm quite hesitant to embrace any of the policy that president obama is wrestling with now in afghanistan when it seems he's kind of dithering and not wanting to make up his mind when he appointed in march mcchrystal to give him a good strategy so some kind of surnl movement could be -- surge movement could be implemented in that country and for him to
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not to listen at this point to what mcchrystal is asking -- sean: he said 40,000 or we would risk failure, in august. 40,000. >> he needs to decide. we're watching for the president to show that steel spine reagan exemplified and say you know what? we're going to do all that we can in afghanistan. we cannot afford to lose. so i will listen to my advisors. he's asking for the tools to that counterinsurgency strategy. i'm there with them. sean: your son just got back from a deployment in iraq. could -- do you worry about him serving under a president that's dithering, to use your word? >> i want to make sure my son sand -- and every web -- member of our military is equipped to the fullest and has a commander
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in chief committed to the fullest. some people are quite war-wearing and wondering why are we even there anymore? well, the fact is we are there and it does no good to start dithering and wondering, oh, my gosh -- we know what strategy we need there. same as in iraq. conditions ever different, especially the geography but -- sean: there is no war on terror. the man caused disasters. we're going to mir andize he enemy com batsants on the battlefield. >> i was think back to the con vex -- convention and the words in that convention speech had a lot to do with that mir andizing of enemy combatants, with terrorists. i said that the other other other candidate i fear is more worried about the terrorists' rights. an al qaeda terrorist is wired to try to destroy america and somebody may be worried about their rights? now what we're seeing today
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with inviting the trial to be here in new york -- sean: this is khalid shaikh mohammed? >> yeah. it's very scary to think that there would be thissumption that he is protected unour constitution and has rights when he wants to destroy america? sean: it's unprecedented. the civil war, world war ii, we didn't do this. we had military tribunals. hold that thought. we'll return. i'll ask governor palin whether she believes the fort hood shooting was an act of terrorism. >> i'm going to get clobbered the sixties were all about freedom. ♪ and now in my sixties, they are again. grandpa, are we there yet? i have the freedom to do what i want... and go where i want. grandpa, come on! freedom is what i like about my medicare supplement insurance. i can see the doctor i want, where i want, anywhere in the country. now your sixties can be a time of freedom again...
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sean: we continue now with sarah palin. i want to go back. you said the number one challenge we have in -- is terrorism. >> yes. sean: that america faces. >> yes. sean: the. does not acknowledge we have a war on terrorism. the president says it's a
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man-caused disaster. do you think the president was a pre-9/11 mentality? >> oh, that's a good question. there are some actions being taken today that would make someone assume that that is what that mentality is. instead we need that 9/12 mentality where we build up our military defenses and we'll be willing and able to deploy everything we need to deploy to keep our homeland safe and support our allies >> he pulled missile defense from the czech republican -- republic and poland. was that a mistake? >> that was a mistake. missiles were pulled from a site up there in alaska, which is quite unfortunate. sean: we have a crisis now with an iranian regime with a holocaust diener as president, that wants to alyleate israel, wipe it off the face of the
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earth. how do we prevent it from getting nuclear weapons? >> we have allies that are as concerned about iran getting nuclear waps as we are. we need to be working closer with britain and france. and cut canning off the imports into iraq of their refined petroleum products -- 45% of their energy supply is reliant on those imports. we have some control over there and some of the beneficial international moan he tairy deals iraq -- monetary deals iraq benefits from, we can start placing sanctions and shaking things up. nobody is going to stand for it. sean: how dangerous is it for the united states that our president thinks he can make progress with somebody like ahmadinejad? >> it's another one of those things, like an i told you so. our campaign had brought out that barack obama had said he
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would meet with some of these mad men without any preconditions. i do think he has evolved from that and realizes now you cannot make such a promous -- promise when you are dealing with these "mad men" who want to destroy israel. sean: what about the advisors to obama? we have a problem in the middle east, talking about shooting israeli plans if they fly over iraq to get to iranian nuclear facilities. what would you do if you were president? >> there again, working with our allies. we need to make sure russia is recognizing too that we're not going to put up this with these threats of this regime that is so threatening and controlling the sean: and what about north korea? how embarrassing is it to you when the president goes to china and has to we go them --
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beg them to continue to support the american economy by buying our treasury bonds? >> we have to start cleaning up our own house here in america. not so much -- well, it's twofold but we can't just look at china and blame them for some kind of trade imbalance. it's also our fault because we have spent so much money. we're in debt as a country $11, $12 trillion right now and we're becoming beholden to china and china is taking advantage of the situation. so until america gets its house in order and we start ghish -- diminishing the problem of growing in derktsnm the president and congress recognize that growing this debt deeper and deeper makes absolutely no sense, then our relationship with china is going to be unbalanced and nonsensical to many of us. sean: do you think fort hood was an act of trivial? >> i certainly do and i think there were massive warning
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flags that were missed all over the place. to me it was a fear of being politically incorrect to not, i'm goods -- going use the word, profile this guy, in the sense of finding out what his radical beliefs were. simple things like looking at the business card that had the secret code word for who it was -- sean: the contact? >> right. because i used the word profile i'm going to get clobbered tomorrow morning. the liberals, their heads are just going to be spinning. they're going to say she is radical, she is extreme. but i say profiling in the context of doing whatever we can to save innocent american lives, i'm all for it then. sean: you seem like you've gotten shy and reserved since i last interviewed. >> that's why i'm never in trouble. sean: i'm going to about the couric interview when we get back and your future. still to come, governor palin
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sean: we continue with sarah palin. i know you talked a lot about the katie couric interviewed. how would you answer those questions differently, the two that got the most play? >> i screwed up on it and i was annoyed. my bad. i let my annoyance a show so brightly. it was unprofessional of me. she asked what i read. i read "the wall street journal," "the frontiersman," and i absorb the news through many forces. sean: supreme court cases. that was the other one that got a lot of play.
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how would you answer that question today? >> there were so many supreme court cases that affected my constituents in alaska. an exxon ruling had just come down and i had been interviewed and i should have answered that. instead, my screw up. it was annoyance and i should not have been so flippant about everything. sean: a to look at the polls, people love you or haiti. how would you reach out to people who have a character -- caricature image of you may be because of teen a fait -- tina fey or who do not know you. >> they need to read my book and not believe the tabloidization or the mainstream media that wants to portray me as something i'm not. read my own book and judge me by that. judge me by my record and my
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accomplishments as a city regulator and an oil regulator and a governor. sean: your dad said, sarah is not retreating, she is reloading. that is a pretty good line. you also said that you want to play a national role if people will have you. you have a big fan base. people will have you. how do you envision this role in the future? what roles could you please? >> not necessarily seeking the title to affect the positive path -- positive change i think our country needs. i want to help the candidates get elected that can implement could change and get our economy and go right track. i want to help worthy causes, like making sure that our world is more welcoming for the more special ones. there are a lot of causes i want to help with. don't know if that necessarily means running for a higher office, but my life is in god's
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hands. i'm seeking the path he would have me. sean: you are not thinking about it but you are not ruling it out. when you resigned as governor, a lot of people were saying -- told a story about a conversation you had with your older son about that. let's say 2012, you decide to run. the question comes up, what assurances you will not resign if investigations began, you think you're a lame duck? how would you answer that question in 2012? >> the decision to hand the reins over to my lieutenant governor was about doing right for the constituents in alaska, not preventing progress based on the opposition researchers trying to put me on a path toward personal destruction. i was doing the right thing for my state. the decision was the right decision for alaska. i am not a quitter and i love the way my dad put that, not retreating but reloading. in order to get out there and fight for what is right for
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country, in order to help provide some common sense, a conservative solutions. sean: we will hear a lot from you. >> spectators will have a whole lot of material. tina fey might have a whole lot of material, but our message is strong. our message is true. my message is a voice for the common sense, hard-working, everyday americans who expects not much out of its government except for it to be on their side. sean: you talked about rules for radicals. you talk about the democrats. you got the chicago treatment. do you think they were responsible for a lot of the investigations that ensued, which became very troublesome and expensive to you, which led to the resignation? >> absolutely, but it was not just me. it was the burden put on the state administration, the dollars and the hours my staff had to spend to respond to the?
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-- to the frivolous things that were thrown our way. alaska is doing very well under lieutenant governor john cornell -- sean parnell. our state is moving forward on energy projects that will create a more secure environment for our nation. he's doing great things. sean: as we move forward, you really have no idea where you're going to be in four years? >> i do not know. i wish i could predict and prepare for what is going to happen in four years, but i am very happy where i am now, happy with the book, happy with those receiving the truth and the message that i am sending, very happy with my family is now. they are healthy, they are joyful, and everybody is doing just fine. sean: governor come in your own words tonight. we appreciate you being with us. thank you. sarah palin. "going rogue

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